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1quickgt
09-14-2006, 12:19 PM
They are aluminum heads.

part #'s one is marked SN13256-3 the other is marked SN13116-3

Rosstang
09-14-2006, 01:00 PM
where did you get these part numbers? are they for a 302? Are they sohc? dohc? ford? chevy? are they laying on the floor or did you see them at a junkyard?

1quickgt
09-14-2006, 01:06 PM
No I pulled these off a 308 that was in a 87 GT bought and sold as a roller. They are actually sitting on a table here in my shop. I think they are ford heads.



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1quickgt
09-14-2006, 01:09 PM
here is another pic. I got the numbers off the side of the head above where the header flange would bolt on.



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White90GT
09-14-2006, 01:21 PM
That my friend looks like a set of Trick Flows. My heads are almost identical. It is the older set before they started stamping the name in the valves. Seems like my numbers are very similar.

1quickgt
09-14-2006, 01:23 PM
That my friend looks like a set of Trick Flows. My heads are almost identical. It is the older set before they started stamping the name in the valves. Seems like my numbers are very similar.

OH NO SHIT, guess I better pull them off the classifiedds

White90GT
09-14-2006, 01:25 PM
Notice the shape of the lower part of the head in the pic?

http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/longblock11_04_11.jpg
http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/longblockcar11_04_1.jpg

http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/headsurf11_04_2.jpg

http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/headport11_04_1.jpg

http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/smallfrontlongblock.jpg

http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/headsurf11_04_1.jpg

1quickgt
09-14-2006, 01:27 PM
they look JUST like that, only they don't say trick flow on the front ???

1quickgt
09-14-2006, 01:45 PM
Carl can you email those to me so they are bigger?

mlclifton@houston.rr.net I think. I hate moving and having new shit to get used to. :banghead:

jboehm
09-14-2006, 01:49 PM
i think carl is correct. that part number reminds me of a TF head

1quickgt
09-14-2006, 01:52 PM
I had planned on selling all this stuff to get me a set of heads and start off like Fred and every one said, with heads and an intake. But I guess I'll just have the polished and freshend up and use them. Now all i'll have to get is a new intake. Though about that new explorer intake in the classifieds. But I have to sell some things first.

White90GT
09-14-2006, 02:36 PM
Click each link below. They are full size on my website.

http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/longblock11_04_11.jpg
http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/longblockcar11_04_1.jpg

http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/headsurf11_04_2.jpg

http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/headport11_04_1.jpg

http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/smallfrontlongblock.jpg

http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/headsurf11_04_1.jpg

White90GT
09-14-2006, 02:38 PM
Yeah, I'd just clean those babies up, make sure you have the "right" size pushrods (typically a 6.70 length hardened pushrod works with the twisted wedges). Get that explorer intake and make sure it has the needed sensors for your car to run right, slap all that on and see how she runs. I bet pretty good!

1quickgt
09-14-2006, 02:43 PM
do yours say trick flow on the front?

White90GT
09-14-2006, 02:52 PM
do yours say trick flow on the front?


No, nothing indicates they are trick flow other than the serial numbers, thats the only marking on the heads

jboehm
09-14-2006, 03:15 PM
mine don't say trickflow anywhere. i think the new ones do. mke, how about getting the tfs stage 1 cam and tfs intake to complete the topend. proven combination

1quickgt
09-14-2006, 04:55 PM
mine don't say trickflow anywhere. i think the new ones do. mke, how about getting the tfs stage 1 cam and tfs intake to complete the topend. proven combination

may end up with that combo, I had the tfs stage II in my kotzur built 306 so I was thinking I may end up with that cam also.

Blue91
09-14-2006, 05:32 PM
They look similar on the outside, but make sure the valves aren't "inline". The Intake is "twisted" vs the exhaust, like the pic Carl posted shows (http://users.ev1.net/~carlrenee/headsurf11_04_1.jpg). If they are the same, then yes, they are old TFS TW heads. You should have them checked out before running them to make sure the guides are good. When used without the proper length pushrod, the guides and seals go to shit with a quickness.

I was considering those when I thought they were GT40s. Guess I shoulda jumped on them! LOL!

Blue91
09-14-2006, 05:35 PM
And what motor is all of this going on? A 306? With dope when at track? TFS intakes are ugly as hell IMO, so just based on that, I'd recommend going with the edelbrock, hehe. Don't just jump up and buy an intake though. DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT FROM THE CAR FIRST and what the ET goals are.

1quickgt
09-14-2006, 05:47 PM
Yes these are going on the forged 306 thats in the two tone car. I plan on taking them and having them P & P'd before they go on, putting new valves, seals and all it takes to make them basically new. The valves are the same as Carl posted,



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1quickgt
09-14-2006, 05:48 PM
:lol: just a little dirty though.

franken-stang
09-14-2006, 05:52 PM
Dont quote me but they look the same. Are those the Crane Gold series roller rockers too?

1quickgt
09-14-2006, 05:53 PM
Dont quote me but they look the same. Are those the Crane Gold series roller rockers too?

yes sir. but yes they are the same just the pic is flipped the other way, well I guess the head is, lol.

Woopow
09-14-2006, 07:20 PM
I would included what nitrous system I was going to run when I was deciding on what intake I bought. The best combo I came up with was a Performer and NOS big shot plate. I called NOS and they have just about discontinued every plate system except the one for the Performer intake (no more stock, cobra/gt 40, plates). I didn't ask about Trick flow though.

klmracing
09-14-2006, 10:11 PM
lucky bastard kinds goes along with the deal i got a couple of months on the Holly systemax intake and stuff

White90GT
09-15-2006, 06:55 AM
Mike, you shouldn't need to get them P&P'd. Those heads flow plenty out of the box for a solid running 306 and nitrous. There's no reason you shouldn't see 10s on a 150-200 shot in a 3200 lb car (with traction of course). High 11s to low 12s n/a with the right cam.
Get the machine shop to inspect them well, have all the springs checked, have the surface decked, and check the valves and guides. It looks like they have been converted to stud mount which was part of the fix from trick flow to resolve the valve guide problems, the other peice was putting in bronze valve guides. If it has those and you use a 6.70 pushrod, you should have no problems out of them.
I'd probably go with an RPM intake and a TFS #2 or custom cam. If you're going with an AOD/C4, get about a 3200 rpm 10" converter. 3.73 gears for decent n/a and nitrous performance.

Blue91
09-15-2006, 08:27 AM
#2 is too large for a 306, overkill. IMO. Would likely have to clearance the pistons to get the valves to clear since the reliefs are not TW specific and the intake valve is rotated on the heads.

I wouldn't assume anything on the pushrod. Measure for the proper size and then get the correct length. Don't just get one length b/c someone says to.

1quickgt
09-15-2006, 08:32 AM
well the more I think about the trans debate I think I'll stick with the aode, I just can't bring myself to thinking about the gas milage I would get if I had a steep gear in it and had to drive it to a FFW event. It's a real street car and I don't want to make it to much of a car to where I would end up having to get a new DD. I like turning heads when the cars goes by even if it's someone puking :lol: I want to be able to chuck the kiddo in the back seat and Margaret still be some what comfortable riding for a few hours in the car.

I haven't been able to read up on the whole intake issue yet though. I have been reading on the heads and i'm still going to take them in for a once over and a cleaning.

1quickgt
09-15-2006, 08:34 AM
#2 is too large for a 306, overkill. IMO. Would likely have to clearance the pistons to get the valves to clear since the reliefs are not TW specific and the intake valve is rotated on the heads.

I wouldn't assume anything on the pushrod. Measure for the proper size and then get the correct length. Don't just get one length b/c someone says to.


Any suggestions one where I could take the car drop it off and have the piston's taken care of and the heads bolted of at the same time just to make sure it's done right?

Would it be reasonable to leave the E cam in it?

Blue91
09-15-2006, 11:31 AM
Don't get a cam that requires you to "take care of" the pistons. The pistons should be ok with those heads as long as the cam isn't wild. Just make sure you measure the p/v clearance when you install them to insure there is enough clearance when it's running. I don't have time right now to explain the steps on how to do that (work). I'm sure someone else will chime in with how to do that. It's not hard and it NEEDS to be done, even if you "think" there will be no problems. It's cheap insurance to make sure everything is kosher before bolting it all together, spinning it to 5500+ and bending valves b/c they end up slapping the pistons.

I'd decide the entire combo FIRST; heads, intake, poweradder (or not), goals for car (emissions legal? no cares about that? lumpy idle? mild idle?) and THEN get a CUSTOM cam to mate it all together. The cam should come last and you'll get better results with one tailored for your combo vs one picked off of the shelf by an inexperienced person.

And I agree with Carl. Get the heads checked out and all, but I'd save the money on porting them at the moment and put it towards other parts that you need. The TW out of the box flow good for a 306.